Innocent people have to die in a revolution

UPDATE below: Ayers and Dohrn go to Cuba--in 2007.***

Pajamas Media: Were any of those Weathermen involved in concocting this plan particularly excited or enthusiastic about the death camps, or was it merely a means to an end?

Larry Grathwohl: Of course they were enthusiastic as it was representative of the success of “the revolution.”

Pajamas Media: Scattered news accounts on the Internet note that you were instrumental in foiling Weather Underground attacks in February of 1970, in Detroit. The Weathermen built two bombs targeting the Detroit Police Officers’ Association (DPOA) building and the 13th Precinct. Were the goals of these attacks symbolic property damage as were some other Weathermen attacks, or were these targets selected to kill police officers?

Larry Grathwohl: The instructions I received from Billy Ayers was that the bombs to be used in Detroit must have shrapnel (fence staples, specifically) and fire potential (propane bottles). The intention was to kill police officers.

Pajamas Media: One of the Detroit bombs was to be placed on the side of the DPOA building, and the blast was likely to cause damage to the adjacent Red Barn Restaurant, which had mostly African-American customers. Who ordered the attack, and what did he say when you told him that innocent civilians would be killed?

Larry Grathwohl: When I objected to Billy Ayers that more innocent people would be killed in the restaurant, he replied, “Innocent people have to die in a revolution.” Billy also acknowledged during a criticism session in Buffalo that Bernadine placed the bomb at the Park Police Station which resulted in the death of Police Officer McDonnell.

Pajamas Media: Bill Ayers came out of hiding around 1980, became an college professor, and has served on numerous boards and foundations. Do you think he’s changed in his radicalism?

Larry Grathwohl: Has Billy changed? I hardly think so.

UPDATE: Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn went to Cuba as recently as this last September. The last visit we know about was in 1969, when Dohrn visited, while "underground". Some background:

Additionally, according to an October 9, 2008, Investor’s Business Daily editorial:

Operating underground, Ayers’ Weathermen aligned closely with Castro’s Cuba, which aided Marxist terror groups. Some Weathermen on the run found asylum in Havana; others, like Mark Rudd, were trained by the KGB there.[snip]

Obama says he barely knows him, but in the years when he was meeting and serving together on the Annenberg Challenge and the Woods Fund, as well as launching his career with a fundraiser in Ayers’ Che Guevara-festooned house, Ayers made at least four Marxist pilgrimages to Caracas to praise Chavez’s dictatorial regime.

He sits on the board of a Venezuelan government think tank called Miranda International Center, focused on bringing Cuba-style education to Venezuelan school children.

And in fact, the grants Obama and Ayers made through both those funds were for political and radical causes rather than education. This is really creepy, more from the IBD editorial:

Recent polls show this turning of schools toward Marxist indoctrination terrifies average Venezuelans. Venezuelan dissidents also accuse Miranda of rewriting constitutions in South America to grant leftist leaders absolute power, with some saying Ayers had a role in 2007’s effort to give Chavez total power inside Venezuela.

It’s not surprising. Ayers’ violent methods may have influenced Chavez’s rise to power in 1998. Like Ayers’ terrorists, Chavez’s campaign began with Weather Underground-style hijackings of bank trucks. At the same time, captured computer documents show that Chavez took $150,000 from FARC while in prison.

Given Ayers' and Dohrn's consorting with Marxist dictatorships in recent times, can Barack Obama really expect us to believe he thought Bill Ayers was "rehabilitated"? And given Barack Obama's own recent pronouncements, we do not believe he himself has been "rehabilitated" from radical beliefs he has refused to acknowlege, even as he we hear him speaking of Marxist "redistribution" and rewriting the Constitution on WBEZ in 2001, and "spreading the wealth" today. A reminder--Taking Stock of Barack, a radical primer.